the fiscal crisis is not dealing with medicare and social security. we try to name those and save those programs right now everybody pays in more than their parents and grandparents. without a fix we will get considerably less. medicare goes bankrupt. sit-down and deal with it. it is the math problem not to get rid of them. >>host: talk about middle-class americans and extending tax cuts "the new york times" said raising the medicare eligibility herds working-class americans and able to work and likely to increase health care cost but when you toss out random ideas that implication doesn't matter. it may be attended -- intended to show leaders that they fought but for everyone else it is a party on willing to approach with the bargaining. >>guest: of all the respect i am not surprised they are critical of republicans. that is fair by this is a good-faith effort and as 67 figure what the president has raised before but the demographic reality. >> that is idiot to support? >> is in context with we have done that with some security. we give people a lot